Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

02/11/2014 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HJR 18 CONST. AM: ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 275 ELECTRONIC DISTRIB. OF REPORTS/NOTICES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 275(CRA) Out of Committee
+ HB 199 VPSO FIREARMS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 274 HEARINGS ON REFERENDA TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         HB 275-ELECTRONIC DISTRIB. OF REPORTS/NOTICES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:11:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  next order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 275,  "An  Act relating  to  electronic publication  of                                                               
certain  municipal  notices  and to  publication  and  electronic                                                               
distribution of reports by state agencies."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee was CSHB 275(CRA).]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:12:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:12 a.m. to 9:14 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:14:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER,  Alaska  State Legislature,  as  sponsor,                                                               
presented HB  275.  He  indicated that  the two main  purposes of                                                               
the  proposed  legislation  pertain  to the  state's  ability  to                                                               
promote efficiency and effectiveness  of government and to reduce                                                               
unnecessary  government spending,  which  he said  could also  be                                                               
called government  waste.   He said the  first three  sections of                                                               
the proposed  bill would affect  municipalities and the  last two                                                               
sections would affect  state agencies.  The  first three sections                                                               
would permit  a municipality  to adopt an  ordinance to  post the                                                               
following  three things  on  its web  site  rather than  printing                                                               
them:   mill  rates,  foreclosure listings,  and [expiration  of]                                                               
redemption  of foreclosures.   He  said  similar legislation  was                                                               
proposed in  the past, but did  not pass.  He  indicated that the                                                               
provisions in  Section 1-3 of  HB 275 were added  after listening                                                               
to the concerns of the municipalities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:16:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  stated  that  the  core  of  bill  is  in                                                               
Sections 4 and 5, which would  reduce paper waste.  He questioned                                                               
how many  legislators actually read  all the agency  reports that                                                               
are required by law.  He  said under the proposed legislation, it                                                               
would   be  mandatory   for  those   reports   to  be   delivered                                                               
electronically.   He  said there  would be  exceptions, found  in                                                               
language of  Section 5,  [beginning on page  4, line  30, through                                                               
page 5, line 4], which read as follows:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           An agency may not produce print copies of                                                                            
     reports except as                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                         (1) required                                                                                           
                              (A) under AS 14.56.120;                                                                           
                              (B) by agreement; or                                                                              
                              (C) by federal law; or                                                                            
                (2) requested under AS 44.99.260                                                                                
     or specifically approved by the head of a state agency                                                                     
     or the head's designee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:20:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER said  the  bill would  not compromise  the                                                               
public's right  to know  or the  legislature's ability  to access                                                               
information.   He directed attention  to Section 4, and  said the                                                               
state already  utilizes the Alaska  Online Public  Notice System,                                                               
and language on  page 4, line 24, would require  reports of state                                                               
agencies to go  onto that system.  Representative  Hawker said HB
275 is not  all-encompassing, but is a step  in making government                                                               
activities more efficient.  He said  he thinks if this works out,                                                               
it will merit discussion in future years for expansion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:23:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked how much money might be saved under HB 275.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:23:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  indicated that  in 2011, $1.6  million was                                                               
spent on  publications.  He  said that  "as we have  narrowed the                                                               
scope of  this legislation,"  the Office  of Management  & Budget                                                               
(OMB)  believes  it  is  spending   $530,000  for  this  type  of                                                               
reporting.   He  said,  "The  savings is  going  to be  somewhere                                                               
within that."  He said he  thinks it is realistic to believe that                                                               
there will be material savings  across all agencies under HB 275,                                                               
and that  future legislation could  "go after the  second million                                                               
dollars that's  out there" and  "be more efficient  and effective                                                               
without compromising the public's need to know."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:24:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES  thanked the  bill  sponsor  for what  she                                                               
called "common sense legislation."   She said as a new legislator                                                               
last  year, she  soon realized  the difficulty  in reading  every                                                               
hard copy  report and finding space  to keep them all.   She said                                                               
she  had  made   a  suggestion  that  the   reports  be  provided                                                               
electronically, with  a list of  all the reports  for legislators                                                               
to see.   Representative Hughes  questioned the  reasoning behind                                                               
the language regarding graphic design  reports, on page 5, [lines                                                               
13-17].                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  indicated that  some reports seem  to have                                                               
more  emphasis  on technical  beauty  than  content.   Under  the                                                               
proposed legislation,  an agency would  not be allowed to  hire a                                                               
contractor to provide photographs or  graphics unless there is no                                                               
one  in  the  agency  qualified  to  do  the  work  or  hiring  a                                                               
contractor would cost  the state less.  In response  to a follow-                                                               
up question, he said he has no  idea if an agency has ever [hired                                                               
a contractor for a job that  would have cost less done in house],                                                               
but he  has noted the  "large volume of  what would appear  to be                                                               
very costly photographs"  in the reports to  legislators that are                                                               
delivered and  "going by the wayside  so very quickly."   He said                                                               
the concept  of the bill  is to allow  agency heads to  retain as                                                               
much decision-making  latitude as  possible, while  being mindful                                                               
that the  directive from  the legislature is  to use  the state's                                                               
resources more efficiently.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:30:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER remarked  he  is sure  the sponsor  agrees                                                               
that the  intent is not to  quell information.  He  said he would                                                               
not  mind  if   agencies  spent  funds  doing   work  on  getting                                                               
information available, such as a  specialized application where a                                                               
legislator could  find information on an  iPad.  He said  he does                                                               
not want  to propose an  amendment, but would like  the sponsor's                                                               
response.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER acknowledged  the importance  of testimony                                                               
in  terms  of  conveying  the   intent  of  legislation,  and  he                                                               
confirmed   that   the  "need   in   the   state"  suggested   by                                                               
Representative Keller would not be compromised under HB 275.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:32:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS   opined    that   the   proposed                                                               
legislation  is  fantastic.   He  echoed  Representative  Hughes'                                                               
remark about being a new  legislator and noticing the money being                                                               
spent on  reports.  Regarding  graphics, he said he  thinks there                                                               
is  an incentive  for  state  agencies to  out-do  each other  in                                                               
design,  in an  attempt to  garner  the most  attention from  the                                                               
legislature to secure  funds for their causes.   He surmised that                                                               
the  cost of  design has  got to  be extraordinary.   He  stated,                                                               
"When  we're  hearing numbers  like  half  a  million to  over  a                                                               
million,  it's not  ... just  a symbolic  gesture, but  it's real                                                               
savings."   He said  he suspects  the aforementioned  language on                                                               
page  5,  regarding  graphics,   would  result  in  even  greater                                                               
savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHIE  WASSERMAN, Executive  Director,  Alaska Municipal  League                                                               
(AML), testified  that AML  supports HB 275.   She  remarked that                                                               
this  is the  first  time in  her many  years  involved in  local                                                               
government that  she has witnessed  the state relax a  mandate on                                                               
municipalities,  and she  said that  is  reason for  celebration.                                                               
She  stated  that  most  communities   know  best  how  to  relay                                                               
information  to  their people.    She  pointed out  that,  unlike                                                               
legislators who  must leave  their constituents  to take  part in                                                               
the 90-day  legislative session,  municipal officials are  in the                                                               
vicinity  of   the  people  they  serve   every  day;  therefore,                                                               
municipal officials  know early  on whether information  has been                                                               
delivered  or not.   She  said as  a former  mayor in  many small                                                               
communities, she was  required many years ago  to post everything                                                               
in the closest newspaper, which,  with any luck, was delivered to                                                               
her community  six days later.   She said  that was a  waste, but                                                               
she knew  how to  get the  information to  the people,  and other                                                               
municipalities do,  as well.   She thanked  the bill  sponsor for                                                               
bring HB 275 forward.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:35:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN suggested that perhaps  [legislators] should not be so                                                               
isolated.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:36:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  said he  echoes  the  testimony of  Ms.                                                               
Wasserman  and  thinks  the proposed  legislation  is  "extremely                                                               
helpful."   He said the  elective aspect of  posting requirements                                                               
is good.   He asked Ms.  Wasserman what kind of  feedback she may                                                               
have received regarding HB 275.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:37:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WASSERMAN said  she has  heard from  a few  communities, but                                                               
AML's winter  meeting is not  until another week, at  which point                                                               
the issue will  be discussed at length.  She  said she thinks she                                                               
has been in her  job long enough to know that  for the most part,                                                               
if  a legislative  bill "falls  under local  control," AML  would                                                               
never oppose it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:38:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH L.  REICH, Foreclosure  Specialist, Real  Estate Services                                                               
Division, Department  of Real Estate, Municipality  of Anchorage,                                                               
testified in  support of HB  275.   She said the  Municipality of                                                               
Anchorage appreciates  the provision in the  proposed legislation                                                               
that would  give municipalities  across the  state the  option to                                                               
publish   foreclosure  notices   on   line  or   in  local   news                                                               
publications.  She  said that change would  save the municipality                                                               
a minimum  of $20,000  annually, a  significant savings  in times                                                               
when budgets  are so  tight.  She  expressed appreciation  to the                                                               
bill sponsor and offered to answer questions from the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:39:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:39:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to  report CSHB  275(CRA)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  275(CRA)  was                                                               
reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
00 HB0275 CRA v.O.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
01 HB0275A.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
02 HB 275 sponsor statement.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
03 HB 275 Sectional.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
04 HB275 Fiscal note Lt Gov.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
05 HB275 Fiscal note OMB various.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
06 Back up HB275 OMB.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
07 Legal memo on commas.PDF HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
08 MOA letter of support HB275.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
09 Letter Support HB275 - Alaska Municipal League - Waserman 2-7-2014.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
10 Changes to HB 275 HCRA.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275
01 HB 199 28-LS0739 U.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
02 HB 199 2014 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
03 HB 199 DPS Draft Revised VPSO Regs.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
04 HB 199 Information Hearing BBNA Testimony and Resolutions CEO Ralph Anderson.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
05 HB 199 Informational Meeting Summary 9.26.2013.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
06 HB 199 Letters--Informational Hearing--9.26.2013.PDF HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
07 HB 199 Edgmon Op-Ed Alaska Dispatch 9.13.13.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
08 HB 199 ADN Article--VPSO Slain.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
09 HB 199 ADN Letter to the Editor.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
10 HB 199 Mike McCarthy Support.PDF HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
11 HB 199 Informational Hearing Letter Robert Claus.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
12 HB 199 Kathie Wasserman Support.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
13 HB199 email Mike Coons Testimony.pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 199
05 HB275 Fiscal note OMB various (updated 2-2-2014).pdf HSTA 2/11/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 275